It's intriguing to see Joab's role in David's story. I really didn't know what to make of him, whether he is portrayed as someone who are right and must be patronized, or that he is a sample of the 'right' people who shouldn't be patronized because of his temper. I am not even able to decide whether he is 'right' or not, his ways are too harsh. Or is he a well-intentioned extremist?
Joab is a soldier, and we could stand a harsh military man, and he is easy to boil, but he is still taking it too far in my opinion.
Strictly speaking, Joab had never rebelled against God's words, he only rebelled against David's words. And that's not out of hate of David, he is very loyal to David, and all his actions, including the "too harsh" ones are all committed with David well-being in thoughts. His solution to everything gone awry is "destroy the cause", but he could be threatened by saying things like " You are trying to destroy what God doesn't want you to destroy," and I believe he really believe and trust God with all his might. There's no indication otherwise. And while keeping in check with God's rule and direction, he took actions that looks like it will make all things smoother, although harsh, that David didn't command, or even command the opposite. Sometimes, he also took actions that seems unnecessary or took it way too far because of personal reason. You could say that it's his character's flaw, that he didn't really mean it, but it's still apparent.And as he never receive punishment or warning from God, could we take it that he is only doing something necessary that God let to happen in order to let His plan worked?
And his interactions with David is interesting as well. David are sometimes annoyed with him, and all of Joba's siblings (As he always asked "What's with you, Zeruya's sons?"), but he couldn't get rid of them, as they are very loyal to him and the ones that would never let him down, and that he rely quite heavily on them. Granted, they don't always do what he wanted, and sometimes will bring shame to his name, but they are a great commander and soldier. Won't turn their back to him. I wonder what make Joab and his brothers stick to David so much, considering their rebellious tendencies. Joab also seems to hate and jealous of whoever try to lick up David's ass, both sincerely or insincerely. He kills Abner, and latter Amasa. Both seems unnecessary, but both are originally from David's enemy, so maybe he is afraid they will turn their back again. I imagine David and Joab are like vitriolic best bud. They argue a lot and have an entirely different point of view, and David always looks so easy to substitute Joab with someone else, but Joab is still very loyal to David, and David always listen to Joab. No one else tried to talk to David about his unseemly behavior as a king, and even mocking him about it. Well.... David is easy to advice, though. He take critics and advice well.
Anyway.... I like Joab, but some of his actions seems unnecessary. What is all his actions in the Bible meant for us? Why did it have to be written?
Showing posts with label Bible characters. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Bible characters. Show all posts
Tuesday, 4 November 2014
Thursday, 9 October 2014
Jonathan, the not-as-gentle-as-he-seem Prince
Well as you could guess, I am trying to finish reading the Bible from cover to cover so my posts would be consequential. Right now I am in Samuel
And was regretting about Jonathan
Hold on, I know, Jonathan is never portrayed bad, and in fact, in his usual portrayal when he was friend with David, he is also great. But all this time, what I know is his gentler side, how he treat David and how he is very much obedient to God and to his father and to his family and friend.
What I don't know is he don't only have kindness and softness, but also hard material and startling skills like his leadership, charisma (he once was pulled from death penalty by his men), battle, strategies etc.
In fact, he is a better commander and leader than his father that he could already substitute him as a king when he is still a prince. It's such a waste of good leader potential because he could never be a king in a latter times because of the cause we all knew about.
Not that David is a bad candidate for a King - that's why they are such a best-friend. After all, Jonathan's King position are in good hands - his best-friend, that turn out to be the greatest king of Israel. So maybe, it's not such a devastating loss. He 'lose' to the greatest, that's saying something
Okay, my rambling start to be incoherent - this is just a rambling then. Any opinion about Jonathan? Leave it in the comment please thank you^^
And was regretting about Jonathan
Hold on, I know, Jonathan is never portrayed bad, and in fact, in his usual portrayal when he was friend with David, he is also great. But all this time, what I know is his gentler side, how he treat David and how he is very much obedient to God and to his father and to his family and friend.
What I don't know is he don't only have kindness and softness, but also hard material and startling skills like his leadership, charisma (he once was pulled from death penalty by his men), battle, strategies etc.
In fact, he is a better commander and leader than his father that he could already substitute him as a king when he is still a prince. It's such a waste of good leader potential because he could never be a king in a latter times because of the cause we all knew about.
Not that David is a bad candidate for a King - that's why they are such a best-friend. After all, Jonathan's King position are in good hands - his best-friend, that turn out to be the greatest king of Israel. So maybe, it's not such a devastating loss. He 'lose' to the greatest, that's saying something
Okay, my rambling start to be incoherent - this is just a rambling then. Any opinion about Jonathan? Leave it in the comment please thank you^^
Tuesday, 30 September 2014
Joshua
Hi! Um... I haven't post for so long, and that's because... well... I haven't read the Bible etc. in so long. No, in fact I have, but not enough to write anything about it. Then I started read it again, and trying to catch up, but until now I am still stuck in Joshua *grin*. I hope I will reach my target : To finish read the Bible within this year. Not realistic enough? Ough, you are mean.
Well, maybe for some person this is an inappropriate thing to do, but I always read with enjoyment. And I am a fantasy- story lover. And you know, JOSHUA IS A REALLY REALLY COOL BOOK if you are a fantasy lover, and the war scene is just loveable.
At one point of Joshua, he walk aimlessly and found a man with full war equipment. When he tried to confirm to the man whether he is an enemy or friend, the answer is "No, but as Commander of the army of the Lord I have now come." HOW COOL IS THAT to meet the Commander of the army of the Lord IN FULL ARMOR *died*.
Some theologian said that it's God itself, and it increase it awesomeness. Imagine the image of Jesus in full armor. Hmmm! Isn't it a bit like Arragorn from the Lord of the Rings? XD
A bit after that, they win the war, and it was more of the God's war than the man, why? Because there are more kill by Rain of Stones than by swords. It's cool. Like totally. I am reminded of Kafka on the shore's fish raining, but of course this is cooler. Kyaaa
Another note, I have never realized that Joshua's story only focused on one book : his. I really think he is around for the Judges, but no.
ALl in all, even if it's just one book, it's a cool enough book to read by. I am in love.
Well, maybe for some person this is an inappropriate thing to do, but I always read with enjoyment. And I am a fantasy- story lover. And you know, JOSHUA IS A REALLY REALLY COOL BOOK if you are a fantasy lover, and the war scene is just loveable.
At one point of Joshua, he walk aimlessly and found a man with full war equipment. When he tried to confirm to the man whether he is an enemy or friend, the answer is "No, but as Commander of the army of the Lord I have now come." HOW COOL IS THAT to meet the Commander of the army of the Lord IN FULL ARMOR *died*.
Some theologian said that it's God itself, and it increase it awesomeness. Imagine the image of Jesus in full armor. Hmmm! Isn't it a bit like Arragorn from the Lord of the Rings? XD
A bit after that, they win the war, and it was more of the God's war than the man, why? Because there are more kill by Rain of Stones than by swords. It's cool. Like totally. I am reminded of Kafka on the shore's fish raining, but of course this is cooler. Kyaaa
Another note, I have never realized that Joshua's story only focused on one book : his. I really think he is around for the Judges, but no.
ALl in all, even if it's just one book, it's a cool enough book to read by. I am in love.
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